radio and listen to rush limbaugh at lunch and sean hannity at dinner and only have fox news on, they live in a world outside of facts. >> what is the impact of right-wing radio, left wing humor, fox on one side, msnbc on the other side? what is the impact of people only hearing echos of what they already believe? >> i think it is a threat to our perfect union, i really do. whatever president goes to washington and says i am going to end the partisanship, going to end the politics of divisiveness, i don't believe them. i believe that the mechanism overlaid on it will not allow it. that -- that people tune in basically for the warfare. they're not interested in the fruits of peace. they're not interested in, it's bad television. who would want to watch that? >> all right, ted koppel, do a question, as one of the three remaining partitioners of the kindly evening newscast ge nre, do you think any of this splashed up against what we,000 do for a living first? >> sure. >> second, is it baked into our society? >> yes on both counts. remember the old line those who say it ain't about the mo